RW Chapter 117

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Chapter 117 Chase (Part 1)

It was Carter’s first time that he seeing a battle.

A lineup of more than three hundred knights was unable to even scratch the edge of their defensive line, instead, they had been totally crushed.

Until the end, they had failed to even enter into a range of fifty meters – it was the hunter team’s fire line, only when the enemy had come closer than fifty meters were they allowed to open fire.

The four cannons had brought the enemy’s assault to a complete halt at merely one hundred meters. Along the range of one hundred and fifty to one hundred meters, laid an orderly row of twenty bodies, it was as if they had run into a wall. And these men, like himself, belonged to the strongest category of fighters, Knights; otherwise, they would have never been able to control their horses under the sound of gunfire.

In the end, Carter was glad that he wasn’t one of them. He felt a faint hunch that the battles in the future would become very different, and it was only a matter of time, until Roland Wimbledon the master of such a powerful force would aspire to the throne and aim for kingship.

When the members of the First Army saw the bloody battlefield, they became dizzy and began vomiting or had other adverse reactions. But this wasn’t the reaction they would show if they had personally killed the enemy during close combat, the sense of deterrence brought on by killing someone over a long distance was much less when compared with killing someone with a knife, their reaction couldn’t be counted as critical. Carter picked a set of people from his own team to pick up the severed limbs and put them back with the dead bodies, while still searching for the living people.

The sun gradually fell behind the mountains, and when Carter looked at the blood-red sky, and the distant woods with its crying crows, he was suddenly hit by a dull and dreary feeling.

The era of the Knights was over.

Even until now Duke Ryan was still unable to recover.

He couldn’t understand how it was possible that he had lost, even more to a line of defense as thin as a slice of onion skin, normally it would have been enough to poke it with just a finger to run through it, but today, it was his knights who fled like they had come face to face with the Devil. In truth, he couldn’t even blame them because the assault was under the command of his elite knights.

His personal guards had even to chop down several people so that the blindly fleeing mercenary didn’t come close to the Duke’s position. But he was unable to do anything else, no matter how much he shouted, he couldn’t unite the defeated men once more. In desperation, even Duke Ryan had to retreat with the flow of fleeing people, and their mindless escape only stopped after they had crossed nearly ten miles.

When the night came, the Duke chose a place close to the river bank to camp. Even after setting up torches to lead the separated knights and mercenaries back to their camp, most of their people were still missing. To make matters worse, the freedman had without any hesitation left in the carts with the food, so tonight they had to slaughter a few horses to serve as rations.

The five nobles huddled together, within the camp’s largest tent, looking with a fearful expression towards Duke Ryan, however even he wasn’t in any better constitution.

“Who can tell me, what kind of new weapon it was that they had used? They are far better than crossbows, and they don’t seem to be throwing the stones like with a catapult,” the Duke began to speak, while glancing at Rene, ”You also stood at the forefront, tell me what did you see?”

“My Lord, I… couldn’t see anything clearly,” Rene answered, “I only know that every time this roar could was heard, our men would fall in batches, especially when it sounded for the last time, it seemed like the rushing knights had been hit by an invisible wall. Furthermore I also saw how their heads and arms were split from their bodies, it was just as if …” he thought for a moment, “we were like an egg dropped from the height of a city wall.”

“Was it the power of a witch?” Count earl whispered frightened.

“No,” answered the Duke, “My knights were wearing a God’s Stone of Retaliation, so the power of a witch couldn’t have hurt them! We weren’t attacked by witches, in front of those stones, they are nothing more than an ordinary woman.

“Oh, that’s right, sir,” Rene suddenly spoke up, as though he was remembering something. “Before I heard the loud bang, I saw how carts which stood in a row, they had a huge iron pipe, it emitted a red light and a cloud of smoke.”

“An Iron pipe? What red light and what smoke? Doesn’t that sound like the ceremony barrel?” Count Elk asked with much doubt in his voice.

The Duke, of course, knew what a ceremony barrel was. Previously they were only used by the King at the beginning of major celebrations, but today nearly every Lord would use them. Even he had two ceremony barrels made out of bronze in his castle, they were used to light up snow powder. But that sound when compared with today’s breathtaking thunderous noise, couldn’t be further apart.

“The ceremony barrels would never be able to kill knights,” Count Honeysuckle said. “No matter what the Prince used, it was powerful enough to defeat us all.  So what should we do next?”

Hearing this, Duke Ryan glared in his direction, the sound of the word “defeat” was especially ear-piercing. “We haven’t lost,” he insisted. “A battle alone doesn’t decide a war. We only have to reach the stronghold, there I can put another force together, while at the same time I will also cut off trade from the Shishui River.”

Without any food supplement, Border Town wouldn’t be able to survive for another month, and as soon as he dared to bring those villagers out, my knight will rush at them from all sides and in the end, defeat him.

Eventually, the victory would become his, just as had he wanted, but the loss he had already suffered couldn’t be made up with just such a small town… his dream of taking over the North turned out to be only a bubble. Damn! If I will ever catch that Roland Wimbledon, I will have to make sure to cut him into a million pieces!

“But my Lord, the fleets crossing over the Shishui River aren’t only coming from us, there are also ships from Willow Town, Fallen Dragon Ridge and Redwater City. If we cut everything off, wouldn’t…” Count Honeysuckle clearly wasn’t convinced.

“I will buy everything; it doesn’t matter to whom they sell. As long as they receive their money they will be satisfied,” said the Duke with a frosty voice, “Now everyone should head back to their own tent’s and go to sleep, tomorrow morning we have to rise early and ride further down the road with the knights. Everyone who doesn’t have a horse will stay behind to lead the mercenaries.

No one is able to march during the night, even if the 4th Prince intends to pursue us. He can only start at dawn, the first enemy he will encounter will be the mercenaries, he thought, even if that group of trash collapsed on the first encounter, I still have many people left who will fight for me.

During the whole of next day, the Duke didn’t receive any news of the 4th Prince having caught up. In order to confirm the news, he sent his trusted aides to expand the search range, but they all returned with the same news. This finally let him feel a little relieved, most probably this new weapon has the same problem as our trebuchets, they are too heavy to be transported and can only be used in defense. Relying on only his bunch of miners with their sticks, he doesn’t dare to act so reckless.

By three o’clock in the afternoon, the Duke had ordered his knights to stop for the day, waiting for the people behind him to catch up. Close to dusk, the mercenaries and freedmen were finally able to catch up with his remaining 66 knights. And they then all became busy setting up a circle of hastily erected tents.

He only had to survive for the night, tomorrow he could rush and reach Longsong Stronghold – then he would finally be safely behind his 30 feet high limestone walls, his hundreds of guards and the naturally formed moat.  Even if the other side could use their new long-range weapon, he could just use the trebuchets placed behind the wall to counterattack. Against all this, the Prince couldn’t win.

But all day long the Duke had a constant feeling of discomfort, he constantly had the feeling that someone was staring at him from afar.

Most probably it is just an illusion, he thought, I’m might just be a little too nervous.

The next morning, the Duke was awoken by the sound of gunfire.

When he rushed out of his tent, he could see people everywhere who had covered their heads and were trying to sneak away like rats. Yet, from time to time he could still see a fountain of blood or sail splash into the sky. When he looked to the West, he could see the enemy lined up in their strange uniform, quietly standing outside his camp. At the moment there was only one thought in the Duke’s head – how had they caught up to us?

How come they weren’t detected by the knights that I’ve sent out yesterday?!

“My Lord, you have to flee!” shouted a personal guard who was leading another horse at his side.

This awoke Osman Ryan from his blanked state of mind, he immediately jumped on the back of the horse and followed his guard to the East. However, not long after they had left the camp, they saw another line-up of this strange force.

Wearing the same kind of leather uniform, holding the same strange short stick in their hands and also standing in two neat rows, even their facial expression was nearly the same.

Then the Duke once more heard that cheerful tune with its extremely rich rhythm, at the same time the Prince troops began to march at a neat pace, directly towards his direction.


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  • ambi

    Thanks for the chapter Roxerer, Jatz, and Adam W.! Quick and easy victory eh. Once he gets more materials and oil they’re going to be unstoppable. He’ll have roads and cars soon after.

  • nerd_o

    The sun gradually fell behind the mountains, and when Carter looked at the
    blood-red sky, and the distant woods with its crying crows, he was
    suddenly hit by a dull and dreary feeling.

    ‘gg bois’

  • Proxy Account

    *cries in joy*
    These kinds of stories…and the blood of fools make my day….

  • Psychronia

    I wonder how people will view Roland in the history books? On one hand, he’ll probably be known as an earth-breaking social reformist for both witches and commoners regarded with the reverence and respect one would give a saint.
    On he other, he introduced true instruments of death along with merciless tactics terrifying enough for anyone to see him as a devil.

  • MOHLT
  • Slikrapids

    Thanks for the chapter.

  • the evil one

    the prince is using infantry line assault tactics

  • Angel

    will he died ? i hope he meet his doom ahahaha 😀

    thx for the chapter ^^

  • Danis

    Moarrrrrrr awesome finally mc war not some side character fking war !!!
    Thanks for the chapter 😀

  • Oak

    Thanks for the chapter

  • Light

    time that he seeing -> time seeing
    guards had even -> guards even had
    than an ordinary woman -> than ordinary women
    whole of next -> whole of the next
    act so reckless -> act so recklessy
    that I’ve sent -> that I’d sent
    the Prince troops -> the Prince’s troops
    Thanks for the chapter!

  • Arte

    About the only thing I could see happening to even the playing field at this point is if a massive oversized force were to attack Roland’s, or if somehow the other faction(s) manage to gain the plans for his weapons and tactics AND witches with which to implement them (since he’s already gone over how much more trouble it would be to replace witches with the actual production tech to make much of it)

    • Light

      Making gunpowder and cement would be enough to close the gap, considering the difference in forces. Cement would allow them to make fortifications much more easily, while for gunpowder they’d just have to cut him off from saltpeter once they found out the recipe.

      • Neruz

        No it wouldn’t; Roland can only make guns because he has Anna to do the metalwork and steam engines to drill the barrels. Without improved metalwork you can’t make guns easily or steam engines at all, and Roland noted that the average level of metalworking was simply not good enough to produce guns.

        The only people who stand a chance at closing the gap are the Church, as they seem to be using magic and witches, which -might- help them stand a chance depending on what they have up their sleeves.

        • Light

          Gunpowder can literally be used as a bomb in and of itself, and cannons aren’t super complicated. Combined with a MUCH larger force, they’d almost certainly win.

          • Neruz

            ‘Cannons aren’t super complicated’ they are when you literally do not have the metallurgical knowledge and abilities to make them. They can’t weld remember, so cannons would need to be cast as a single piece, which is in fact quite complicated. Unless you don’t mind half your cannons exploding violently and randomly when fired.
            You are seriously underestimating the difficulty in metalsmithing needed for reliable guns. Or you’re overestimating the capabilities of the other kingdoms.

            Roland’s iron is also likely of a much higher quality as he knows basic chemistry and the secret of steel, plus with Anna he has the fire temperatures to actually properly work iron.

            Yes, others can make hand grenades and basic cannons, but they’re never going to be able to match the range and power on Roland’s cannons and they can’t make rifles at all. And while cannons are great, they’re not so amazing when your opponent can outrange you easily.
            Also keep in mind that this is an entirely new form of warfare, Roland already knows basic theory regarding gun warfare but no-one else has the slightest clue. Keep in mind that it took years to properly understand ballistics to the point where cannons could be aimed accurately without test shots.

            Also Roland has air support.

    • Kuq Ku

      Gurkhas used stealth and hand to hand combat against gun wielding Japanese during the war.

  • Kuq Ku

    If they manage to get their hands on that weapon, able to reverse engineer it or create something similar to its action, which might be possible, if they had a talented genius who is capable of understanding what might be happening, like Leonardo Di Vinci, especially if they compare it to the snow powder thing, they had already tried to break down what they saw.

    They got slaughtered for sure, but now they would be more wary, well they would be if any of them survive, I wonder.. would Roland dare to use a mustard gas like weapon on them? grenades? guerilla warfare? trench warfare? If they did use gas, light could become quite the mass killer..

  • MOHLT

    God of death is coming for you duke

  • Maxi King

    “obs stürmt oder schneit
    ob die sonne uns lacht
    der tag glühend heiß
    oder eiskalt die nacht
    verstaubt sind die gesichter
    doch froh ist unser sinn
    ja unser sinn
    es braust unser panzer
    im sturmwind dahin”

    somehow this song works really well with the scene…

  • Cristian N. Hernández

    Lol.
    Thanks for the chapter!

  • MangoGuy

    The poor guys .. never mess with MC!

  • Akabanenabaka

    I like to see how Rolands brother and sisters react to his new army’s power.

  • NaoSou

    Thanks!

  • Gordon

    50 meters?? isn’t it a little low?? A normal huma n can cover it in a second, so it seems the first army will only be able to fire one time before engaging and being slaughtered

    • 50 meters in a second!? when did that happen!? what did you smoke?, professional athletes can make 100 m on 10 to 11 seconds, how can a regular army make it faster that them on an irregular terrain?

      • MangoGuy

        He probably means that loading the cannon again would take too much time…

        • marat88

          Don’t they have muskets or something similar that they rely on when it is 50 meters or less?

          • MangoGuy

            Yes but the aim cannot be counted upon..basically the es controlling the cannons and the cannons themselves will be open!

      • Gordon

        sorry…i meant in seconds, but my cell decided to write it like that -.-.

    • Dramen

      not really, put yourself in the knights’ shoes you and your horse are scared shitless by just the sound of what could equivalently be called God’s thunder and then seeing literally all your peers in front of you ripped to shreds like paper I’m pretty sure you won’t be crossing 50 meters any time soon

    • Michael Twitsucks

      …I don’t know what you’re referring to, but I’m guessing you’re talking about the musket rifleman only being allowed to engage at 50 meters and how you think they would be overrun before a second shot.

      This is why you use multiple lines of riflemen. Say you have three lines of riflemen. ALL have their guns ALREADY loaded. First line fires, ducks back to the last of the lines. Second line fires, ducks back to the last of the lines. Third line fires, ducks back to the last of the lines. By this time, the First line might have already reloaded if they’re good. Meanwhile, you’ve just sent out THREE volleys in the span of… 10-15 seconds? Even a horse (with a rider – in armor, don’t forget) would have difficulty making it 50 meters in that time frame.

      • Gordon

        think about a far larger battlefiled…you masscre the first couple of lined and then you are forced to engage with an enemy vastly superior in meele. I would like to actually know how much time they need to actually reload their weapon

        • Michael Twitsucks

          “think about a far larger battlefiled…”

          It matters not. So long as the lines are facing the enemy the methodology is the same. So long as it’s done correctly, so too, will the results be the same. As far as being flanked and out-maneuvered by cavalry… You have to LET that happen for it to occur. If you just sit there and wait for the enemy and don’t counter a flanking cavalry maneuver, sure, you’ll get hit from the sides. A well-trained unit, however, would just use artillery support and long range shooting (or simply move) while wondering what the hell the enemy cavalry is thinking they’re doing.

          “you massacre the first couple of lined and then you are forced to engage with an enemy vastly superior in melee”

          No, no. Tactics like this were developed specifically to avoid ever engaging in the melee. First three lines don’t mow down the opposition (…which is unlikely)? You fall back. You have more lines. You consolidate forces into smaller lines if necessary. You have a firearm, the entire point is to utilize its range and penetration.

          “I would like to actually know how much time they need to actually reload their weapon”

          (He wasn’t loading ball ammunition, so add about another 5-10 seconds and call it ~18 seconds to reload on average)

          If Roland was utilizing Minie balls instead of round balls, loading would probably be faster as time went on (round balls do not seal, and thus powder build-up occurs – but we’re talking DOZENS of shots before that happens). If he was utilizing nipples/primers (he’s not – yet), the time would be even less. Probably 4-6 shots per minute.

          The tactics work, though. Humanity used them from the 17th century and well into the 19th. It wasn’t until the Civil War when firearms technology was starting to out-pace tactics and strategy that it was relegated to the dust bin of history. Until Roland faces people with mounted cavalry with firearms and artillery support, he owns the high ground (quite literally).

          • Neruz

            Gordon is also forgetting morale; very few soldiers, especially landed nobility like Knights, are willing to charge into a line of gunfire and rely on sheer blind luck to save their life. One of the biggest impacts cannons and guns have on the battlefield is against the morale of the enemy; no other weapon is as terrifying to fight or produces such horrific results. Gun warfare is scary.

          • Gordon

            wait a moment. You talked about 17th century, but since he seems unable to reproduce a prefect gunpower i though that technology wise he should be around the 16th century. And since he actually trained people to use pikes i thought that the formation he was aiming for would be the tercio. Did i miss something??

            • Michael Twitsucks

              “wait a moment. You talked about 17th century, but since he seems unable to reproduce a prefect gunpower”

              …What are you talking about? His gun powder is perfectly fine regular old blackpowder. There’s been NOTHING mentioned about it being inferior or substandard (he has mentioned he’s running a little too low on saltpeter supplies, but he still has plenty to conduct combat – just not enough to train as much as he’d like). He can’t make SMOKELESS gunpowder yet (by the way, that was invented nearly into the 20th century – very late invention as far as firearms technology goes). He also doesn’t need it now, either, until he can make self-contained metallic cartridges (more important than anything else). Even then, we used metallic cartridges for some time before switching over to smokeless. Blackpowder loads are still being produced today (albeit for antique firearms that can’t handle modern smokeless powder and Cowboy/historical shooting purposes).

              “And since he actually trained people to use pikes i thought that the
              formation he was aiming for would be the tercio. Did i miss something??”

              He was having the militia use pikes during the month of demons because he only had (IIRC) 4 working firearms. After that, he stepped up production of the guns thanks to Anna and the lathe and milling machines he made. Once he was making enough to field en masse, he dropped the pikes like a bad habit. Can’t blame him.

  • HapUgMata

    thanks for the chapter…

  • kirindas

    Thanks for the new chapter!

  • Mayo

    Unrelated to the chapter, but I just had a strange thought. So, when the real Roland died, our MC, having also died around the same time, entered his body. If that’s the case, did Roland maybe take over MCs body in his world?

    • MangoGuy

      Rahte my friend is a thought that millions if people who have read Chinese xianxia have ponderedd about!

    • Light

      …I hope not? It seems like the guy was a dick who liked sexually assaulting women indiscriminate of anything. Pretty sure it was said that he felt up the wife of a Border Town noble.

      • Michael Renner

        actually no. our roland checked his memories and it seems while he was a perv he never actually assaulted anyone.

        • Light

          Thanks, now that you mention it I seem to recall him saying all the women were willing because of his status.

    • Grey Human

      no. It was revealed in the 11th chapter, that the 3rd princess(the pirate queen) had tried to assassinate all of her siblings and failed, except for Roland. she used the maid who fancied by Roland to put odorless and tasteless poison into Roland´s drink right before Witch Anna Trial. the moment the poison killed the original Roland, Fey´s Soul entered Roland Body, thus a new Roland reborn

  • Peter Bui

    Loving the story

    Love gun beats spears battles. Reminds me of that JSDF anime where they invade a fantasy world and turn it into a subservient kingdom

    • Michael Twitsucks

      GATE: Where the JSDF Fought! is a really good series (manga is great, too. haven’t read the WN/LN). I just wish the author wouldn’t have put so much emphasis on nationalism and politics. To the point where it gets absurd with the one Lieutenant in the JSDF that hates the MC even deluding himself by thinking Japan can stand up against the rest of the world simply due to having a gate that opens up to NotReallyMiddleEarth. Yeah, good luck with that.

      Wish the characters from the Special Region on the other side of the Gate got more chances to visit Earth. Those were some of the most fun scenes.

      • Doominator10

        I don’t know if I’d call Gate a good series, but it certainly was entertaining.

        • Michael Twitsucks

          I would. It’s a rather refreshing subversive take on magic and technology tropes. Much like this series. Outside of a few bad elements (almost all directly attributable to the author being a nationalistic hack imposing his personal ideals), it’s a pretty solid narrative.

          I’ll give the author of GATE shit all day long for his political/nationalistic nonsense in the series, but I will be the first to defend it on the basis that its examination of culture and society is actually quite well done when you examine it closely (and take into account the circumstances of the universe’s settings). Even the memes about cat girls serve a point (besides just lampshading it) by showcasing that we’d be interested in their culture and society from certain aspects (and how interaction between both worlds would influence one another). I mean, people go to medieval re-enactments and Renaissance Fairs here all the time – and we don’t even have actual elves/cat girls/Men-At-Arms/magic users.

          • Neruz

            If a gate to a western high fantasy world opened up pretty much the entire first world would devolve into screaming fangirls and whichever poor country the gate opened up in would be immediately inundated with people.

            The only two things I dislike about GATE are, as mentioned, the nationalism and the fact that Japan somehow remains an independent and un-invaded country despite possessing the only passage to an entire world full of new resources and a new, potentially clean and infinite, source of power.

            But I guess believing that Japan could somehow stay independent despite turning into a goose that lays golden eggs is part of the nationalism.

            • ofcoursenot

              The fact that somehow there is no UN resolution for that also makes me laugh

              • Michael Twitsucks

                Especially given in the opening engagement with “The Empire” (fun fact: ACTUAL _FULL_ NAME in the series) the JSDF killed some ~300,000 attacking soldiers. Eventually, the UN would cause a ruckus over whether that was totally justified or not.

                • Neruz

                  Oh yeah I completely forgot about the UN, they definitely would have gotten involved and gummed everything up as much as possible in order to slow things down and make sure the Japanese don’t get an ‘unfair’ advantage.

  • MangoGuy

    This what people felt when Europe invaded the various continents back then…

  • Atamahead027

    SUGOIIIIIIII!

  • the evil one

    its sweeping time

  • phyrigia

    this is just because it’s more easy to train them to use the gun/artillery. Knight training can’t be done in short time. I think roland wont always use this. The ingredients are rare. Unless he can get the ball back..The enemies are like bowling pin.
    thank you!

    • ivands2211

      He will probably train an elite group as to take care of the close combat fights or something like that. And once he reaches a point where there are actual modern pistols, even at close range they will be extremely dangerous.

      • Gordon

        i still think he should go with the tercio fomration…even the more advanced army formation would actually have a lower efficiency against heavy cavalry based army!! Nothing better than a spera wall to stop a charge

        • ofcoursenot

          There is a better formation….the napoleonic square

          • Dramen

            not much need for the infantry square because I really doubt any person let alone any horse that could be Roland’s enemy has specifically trained to ignore the sound of gunfire nor will probably ever get the chance to

            • Neruz

              Yeah he’s actually better off skipping straight to Redcoat style, which is what he is doing, as no-one else has guns to match him. Going to be a lot of Zulu-esque fights going down with people charging into a line of gunfire as they get slaughtered for quite awhile.

            • ofcoursenot

              well then the tercio formation is also not needed then? what about the desert warriors then? how is he gonna deal with them I don’t believe he can stop them from charging into close combat

              • Dramen

                where have I implied other rifle tactics are not needed? I only mentioned the infantry square wouldn’t be needed due in part to it being primarily a formation used to deal with cavalry charges and has proven to easily be broken in a mass infantry charges in which case no way you’re going to hear gunfire over the sound of the warcries

                plus Roland more than likely has a plan to deal with the desert warriors considering he’s offering Echo a chance at revenge and probably involves allying themselves with the exiled tribes and possibly recreating their version of the Boer War

                • ofcoursenot

                  I never implied anything, I was asking if you thought that the desert warriors would be easy to defeat

    • Michael Twitsucks

      It’s something that isn’t highlighted much, but the gun is one of the reasons why the age of feudalism ended. It’s hard to spend so much money on a mounted knight and call him a superior class when some farmer that can’t even read or swing a sword can aim an arquebus and blow his brains out from 30 meters away.

      A lot of people don’t like to hear it, but the gun is the equalizer for society. Man, woman and (as African civil wars have shown us) even children all have a equal means to defend themselves. Hard to enforce your will on another person when you both have the same means of destruction.

      • ofcoursenot

        Secondly, even if the knight goes into close combat, they can use the musket as a makeshift spear to defend himself,making it way better than archery

        • Neruz

          Yeah, guns are how you end feudalism. Without guns or an equivalent equalizer the nobles will always be able to dominate the commoners with their increased wealth and extra time to spend training to use weapons. It takes years to learn how to use a sword properly and build your body up to do so, it takes maybe two to three months to teach john random how to use a gun properly.

    • Light

      The ingredients for gunpowder are rare? It’s already been said that the main ingredients are plentiful since they make pseudo-fireworks, it’s just that Roland’s supply is low since Border Town is so weak and tiny right now. The ball meaning the cannon ball? He can definitely get it back, but his mine is now producing quite a bit of iron, meaning that he can make more now.

  • Coooo

    a new kingdom going to born in the north woaaaaahhh

  • PotatoZero

    Whoo, my blood is boiling

  • Wrandral

    Can’t even begin to truly understand how Carter is feeling right now seeing the end of the Knight’s era of dominion among human armies. But man this must feel pretty bad.
    Heavy cavalry is pretty much done for i’m afraid

    • Paween Hinmuangkao

      Cavalry survived quite long in the gun era. Though… Roland’s tech is not exactly ‘early’ gun era.

      Besides, Carter can become the first carabinier dragoon leader. Riding with carbines and sabres raiding enemy formation.

      • Wrandral

        Didn’t say cavalry as a whole was dead, just the knights and thus the heavy cavalry. Light cavalry will last quite a long time ( we actively used it up till ww1 and ww2 ) since their flanking power to disrupt artillery positions and scouting is still the best.

        • Neruz

          Yep, light cavalry remains useful until you get machine guns into play, at which point you need to start investing in developing tanks because light cavalry simply does not cut it against machine gun emplacements.

          Roland skipping straight to what is effectively Napoleonic era tech and tactics means that he’s going right past the super early guns that can’t penetrate heavy armor and rendering heavy cavalry and infantry functionally worthless in a single sweep. This is huge because pre-gunpowder warfare pretty much revolves entirely around heavy cavalry and infantry, so the other forces are not going to be able to adapt well to the new paradigm at all.

          • ylchow

            if you think about it, tanks are actually Mechanized Knights with machine guns and cannons. The arms/armor/mobility race is funny when you see how it can leap frogs that way. Ironic if next tech adv leads to the rise of light saber wielding, flying swordsmen cutting tanks like butter

      • Michael Twitsucks

        To be fair, he specified heavy cavalry. Hard to justify spending the money to armor a cataphract cavalry horse and knight and train them when they can merely be cut down by rounds like their armor didn’t exist.

        “Besides, Carter can become the first carabinier dragoon leader. Riding with carbines and sabres raiding enemy formation.”

        DEAR GOD, THIS. The guy isn’t the sharpest tool when it comes to the societal/technological upheaval that’s happening, but he’s a decent commander and he already likes firearms. Him seeing the potential of horse+gun+maneuver warfare=good better happen.

        • Wrandral

          oh yeah carabinier dragoon reminds me of conquistadors also

    • Michael Twitsucks

      The thing is about Carter, while he’s not the most intelligent man about the current society and technological changes that Roland is introducing, he’s still well-trained/experienced and versed in tactics. Even Roland admits that when it comes to warfare – classical or modern – he doesn’t have a clue how to fight humans and employ battle strategy past what he’s seen in movies and video games (and dear god, no, Medieval: Total War is not a simulator for how to command troops in field combat).

      I really hope the author goes to show him to be the adaptable guy that he seems to be. The era of the knight might be approaching an end, but you’ll always need trained militaries. You’ll always need trained commanders that know how to command men and how to fight. Carter is this in spades. Even if this new world, he’s still well-equipped. His world might be upside-down now, but if he regains his footing and embraces this new world of opportunities he could be the most dangerous commander on the planet.

      • Grey Human

        I really hope that carter and his knight friends would be given carbine(it wasn’t hard to make, just cut the barrel of the musket by half and some minor adjustment) or pistol by Roland and with a month training, they could become heavy Dragoon regiment( you know because their heavy armor), so they wouldn’t be too out-shined by Roland´s Musketeer.

    • João Paulo Francisconi

      It’s the end of the knights era, for sure, but not the end for cavalry. In fact, cavalry still had it’s place on the battlefield as a shock troop and mobile unit until the first world war, when the widespread use of machine gun fire, motorized units and the introduction of armored cars make them useless. And even then cavalry units where still used even until the second world war, when the famous last cavalry unit of Poland charged against a german panzer division with expected results.

  • retribution35

    this is the best cliff to place your artillery.

    • Michael Twitsucks

      THIS. IS. THECLIFFUPONWITCHYOUANNIHILATETHENEMY!!!!!